JERUSALEM - A teary-eyed (bd: Hillary "cried", Bush was "teary-eyed") President Bush stopped in front of an aerial photo of Auschwitz on Friday at Israel's Holocaust memorial and said the U.S. should have sent bombers (bd: Does he know WWII is over?) to prevent the extermination of Jews there (bd: Does he know mostly Jews were in Auchwitz? And bombing Auchwitz would've killed a mostly Jews?).
Yad Vashem's chairman, Avner Shalev, quoted Bush as saying the U.S. should have "bombed it." Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice said Bush referred to the train tracks leading to Auschwitz, not the camp itself, where between 1.1 million and 1.5 million people were killed by Nazi Germany (bd: After Rice told Bush that bombing Auchwicz would kill a lot of Jews, she said she'd cover for him by saying, 'He meant the train tracks'. Of course, there were no such thing as cars, truck, and they couldn't have fixed the train tracks!).
The issue of bombing the Nazi death camps or the rail lines leading to them has been debated for years (bd: Really? Where?)— and the lack of action was interpreted by some as a sign of Allied indifference (bd: Or bombing the Nazi's instead of a concentration camp full of Jews!).
The Allies had detailed reports about Auschwitz toward the end of World War II from escaped prisoners. But they chose not to bomb the camp, the rail lines, or any of the other Nazi death camps, preferring instead to focus all resources on the broader military effort (bd: The broader military effort of actually winning WWII).
Some experts note only late in the war did the United States have the capability to bomb the infamous camp in occupied Poland, and also faced a moral dilemma since such an operation could kill thousands of prisoners. Even Jewish leaders at the time struggled with the issue and many concluded that loss of innocent lives under such circumstances was justifiable (bd: Like I said, I think they were bombing the Nazi's instead of concentration camps...and railroad tracks going into the concentration camps...).
Bush twice had tears (bd: What a wimp! Just like Hillary! Rush Limbaugh made a big deal about Hillary crying, I bet he says Bush showed 'emotion you need in a leader'!) in his eyes during an hour-long tour of the museum, said Shalev, who guided Bush through the exhibits (bd: Because Bush kept getting lost).
Upon viewing an aerial shot of Auschwitz, taken during the war by U.S. forces, he said Bush called the decision not to bomb it "complex. (bd: Bush didn't understand what was on the aerial shot)" He then called over Rice to discuss President Franklin D. Roosevelt's decision, clearly pondering the options before rendering an opinion of his own (bd: As if the event hadn't happened yet, Bush still thinks the U.S. is going to bomb Auchwitz!), Shalev told The Associated Press.
Shalev quoted Bush as asking Rice, "Why didn't Roosevelt bomb it?" He said Rice and Bush discussed the matter further and then the president delivered his verdict (bd: And then Rice said to Bush, "Why are you acting like a 2nd-grader? What 'verdict'???).
"We should have bombed it," Shalev, speaking in Hebrew, quoted Bush as saying. (bd: Then Shalev said, "Will you layoff this 'roleplaying' about Auchwitz? Jesus Christ!!!)
Briefing reporters later on Air Force One, Rice said Bush was talking about the rail lines to the camp (bd: Still talking about bombing the goddam rail lines going into the camp! Is this the stupidest article you ever read??? Does AP think we're little kids???).
"We were talking about the often-discussed 'Could the United States have done more by bombing the train tracks (bd: OH MY GOD! IS THIS RIDICULOUS? WITH THE RAILROAD TRACKS???)?'" Rice said. "And so we were just talking about the various explanations that had been given about why that might not have been done.
"It was an exhibit about the train tracks (bd: Can we forget about the FUCKING RAILROAD TRACKS????????? I THINK THERE'S THE IRAQ WAR GOING ON!!!). And so we were just talking about the various explanations because, you know, there are three or four different explanations about why the United States chose not to try to bomb the train tracks," she said.
Rice did not detail those reasons.
Later Friday night, asked about Rice's remarks to reporters, Shalev told the AP the president was not specific about what the Allies should have bombed (bd: This is actually really sad...).
Tom Segev, a leading Israeli scholar of the Holocaust, said Bush's reported comment, which appeared spontaneous (bd: WOW! Did you hear that? It appeared spontaneous!), marked the first time a U.S. president had made this acknowledgment (bd: The conversation then switched from "railroad tracks" to whether Bush's reported comment "appeared spontaneous"...for several hours, like the railroad track conversation.).
"It is clear now that the U.S. knew a lot about it," Segev said. "It's possible that bombing at least the railway (bd: The railroad tracks again! Bomb the fucking railroad tracks already!) to the camps may have saved the lives of the Jews of Hungary. They were the very last ones who were sent to Auschwitz at a time when everybody knew what was going on."
At the dedication of the U.S. Holocaust Memorial Museum in Washington in 1993, Nobel Peace Prize laureate Elie Wiesel famously asked, "Why weren't the railways leading to Birkenau bombed by allied bombers? As long as I live I will not understand that (bd: It was so famous, that no one ever knew that, until they read this article)."
At that same dedication, former President Bill Clinton said that the West has to "live forever with this knowledge ... (that) far too little was done," and that "rail lines to the camps within miles of militarily significant targets were left undisturbed (bd: Note to self: the holocaust was caused by not bombing railroad tracks.)."
Segev said the question of a bombing was not so clear cut, noting that it wasn't certain the United States had the ability to carry out such an operation (bd: They had the ability to annihilate the "Axis of evil: Russia, Germany, & Japan...but not the ability to bomb railroad tracks. Maybe some smart Americans said it wasn't a great idea? Just askin'...)
In a response to a request that U.S. forces bomb Auschwitz and the rail lines, John J. McCloy, Roosevelt's assistant secretary of war, laid out the U.S. rationale for inaction.
"Such an operation could be executed only by the diversion of considerable air support essential to the success of our forces now engaged in decisive operations elsewhere and would in any case be of such doubtful efficacy that it would not be warrant use of our resources," he wrote in an Aug. 14, 1944, letter (bd: Did you hear that, GW??? NOW QUIT SAYING 'BOMB THE RAILROAD TRACKS'!!!).
Holocaust scholar Michael Berenbaum said the photo presentation at the museum, and Bush's reported comments there, do not reflect the difficulties in bombing Auschwitz.
"It would have been a much more complex decision than what is presumed here," said Berenbaum, who teaches at the American Jewish University in Los Angeles.
Berenbaum said the aerial photos that Bush saw at the museum were not developed from the negatives until 1977 (bd: The "complex" ones, that Bush didn't understand.), nor were they taken purposely to depict Auschwitz. U.S. intelligence forces took them during a bombing campaign on a German chemical plant nearby, which they carried out in August 1944 (bd: This explains Bush's bad decision to 'bomb the railroad tracks').
But he also said there is no question that had the Allies been interested, they could have bombed Auschwitz and saved lives (bd: Apparently they weren't interested). By the time the idea was raised in summer 1944, they could have bombed the camp and the railway tracks leading to it using air bases in Italy or, if they had wanted to earlier, from Soviet territory (bd: But they didn't want to...Bush would have bombed the railroad tracks, and we would've lost WWI...THANK GOD HE WASN'T PRESIDENT BACK THEN!).
"The Americans flubbed it," Berenbaum said. "The bombing could have weakened the infrastructure and made it more difficult to kill with the efficacy with which they killed (bd: They flubbed WHAT? I thought we WON WWII, didn't we???)."
In an article Berenbaum wrote for Encyclopaedia Britannica, he quoted Wiesel, who was a prisoner at Buna-Monowitz, the slave-labor camp of Auschwitz, as saying that inmates were "filled with joy" over the August 1944 Allied bombing of an adjacent plant (bd: Were there railroad tracks there?). "We were no longer afraid of death; at any rate, not of that death," he quoted Wiesel as saying.
The David S. Wyman Institute for Holocaust Studies in Washington issued a statement praising Bush's reported remark (bd: Instead of these JOKERS working on an Israeli/Palestinian agreement, it's the "railroad tracks" from half a century ago...so sad!).
"The refusal to bomb Auschwitz was part of a broader policy by the Roosevelt administration to (bd: Win WWII.) refrain from taking action to rescue or shelter Jewish refugees during the Holocaust. Tragically, the United States turned away from one of history's most compelling moral challenges," said Rafael Medoff, the institute's director.
Eliezer Schweid, a professor of Jewish Thought at Israel's Hebrew University, said the question of a bombing is irrelevant in retrospect (bd: What? Someone there making sense?).
World Jewish leadership "was afraid to ask publicly" for the Allies to bomb the death camps, believing that would turn the conflict into a war for the Jews, Schweid said.
Bush was accompanied on his tour by a small party that included Rice, Israeli Prime Minister Ehud Olmert and Israeli President Shimon Peres (bd: ...and a guy who mixes a helluva 'Mohito'!!!).
At the compound, overlooking a forest on Jerusalem's outskirts, Bush visited a memorial to the 1.5 million Jewish children killed in the Holocaust, featuring six candles reflected 1.5 million times in a hall of mirrors (bd: Too cheap to actually light 1.5 million real candles).
At the site's Hall of Remembrance, he heard a cantor chant a Jewish prayer for the dead. There, Bush, wearing a yarmulke (bd: What's a yarmulke?) , placed a red, white and blue wreath on a stone slab that covers ashes of Holocaust victims taken from six extermination camps. He also lit a torch memorializing the victims (bd: Call me crazy, but I wouldn't let Bush light a torch without supervision.).
"I was most impressed that people in the face of horror and evil would not forsake their God. In the face of unspeakable crimes against humanity, brave souls — young and old — stood strong for what they believe," Bush said (bd: Then Bush dropped the torch and accidentally set the place on fire!).
"I wish as many people as possible would come to this place (bd: We would, it's just that the economy is crashing over here in America). It is a sobering reminder that evil exists, and a call that when evil exists we must resist it (bd: Oh, I agree! Why don't you just stay over there?)," he said.
The memorial was closed to the public and under heavy guard Friday (bd: Hmmm...why? People don't like George W. Bush? Or something?), with armed soldiers standing atop some of the site's monuments and a police helicopter and surveillance blimp overhead (bd: The GoodYarmulke Blimp).
It was Bush's second visit to the memorial. His first was in 1998, as governor of Texas (bd: And he spent 12 hours talking about bombing the railroad tracks with tears welled up in his eyes...). The last sitting U.S. president to visit was Clinton in 1994.
In the visitors' book, the president wrote simply, "God bless Israel, George Bush. (bd: AND GOD HELP US ALL, HERE IN AMERICA!)"
Yad Vashem's chairman, Avner Shalev, quoted Bush as saying the U.S. should have "bombed it." Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice said Bush referred to the train tracks leading to Auschwitz, not the camp itself, where between 1.1 million and 1.5 million people were killed by Nazi Germany (bd: After Rice told Bush that bombing Auchwicz would kill a lot of Jews, she said she'd cover for him by saying, 'He meant the train tracks'. Of course, there were no such thing as cars, truck, and they couldn't have fixed the train tracks!).
The issue of bombing the Nazi death camps or the rail lines leading to them has been debated for years (bd: Really? Where?)— and the lack of action was interpreted by some as a sign of Allied indifference (bd: Or bombing the Nazi's instead of a concentration camp full of Jews!).
The Allies had detailed reports about Auschwitz toward the end of World War II from escaped prisoners. But they chose not to bomb the camp, the rail lines, or any of the other Nazi death camps, preferring instead to focus all resources on the broader military effort (bd: The broader military effort of actually winning WWII).
Some experts note only late in the war did the United States have the capability to bomb the infamous camp in occupied Poland, and also faced a moral dilemma since such an operation could kill thousands of prisoners. Even Jewish leaders at the time struggled with the issue and many concluded that loss of innocent lives under such circumstances was justifiable (bd: Like I said, I think they were bombing the Nazi's instead of concentration camps...and railroad tracks going into the concentration camps...).
Bush twice had tears (bd: What a wimp! Just like Hillary! Rush Limbaugh made a big deal about Hillary crying, I bet he says Bush showed 'emotion you need in a leader'!) in his eyes during an hour-long tour of the museum, said Shalev, who guided Bush through the exhibits (bd: Because Bush kept getting lost).
Upon viewing an aerial shot of Auschwitz, taken during the war by U.S. forces, he said Bush called the decision not to bomb it "complex. (bd: Bush didn't understand what was on the aerial shot)" He then called over Rice to discuss President Franklin D. Roosevelt's decision, clearly pondering the options before rendering an opinion of his own (bd: As if the event hadn't happened yet, Bush still thinks the U.S. is going to bomb Auchwitz!), Shalev told The Associated Press.
Shalev quoted Bush as asking Rice, "Why didn't Roosevelt bomb it?" He said Rice and Bush discussed the matter further and then the president delivered his verdict (bd: And then Rice said to Bush, "Why are you acting like a 2nd-grader? What 'verdict'???).
"We should have bombed it," Shalev, speaking in Hebrew, quoted Bush as saying. (bd: Then Shalev said, "Will you layoff this 'roleplaying' about Auchwitz? Jesus Christ!!!)
Briefing reporters later on Air Force One, Rice said Bush was talking about the rail lines to the camp (bd: Still talking about bombing the goddam rail lines going into the camp! Is this the stupidest article you ever read??? Does AP think we're little kids???).
"We were talking about the often-discussed 'Could the United States have done more by bombing the train tracks (bd: OH MY GOD! IS THIS RIDICULOUS? WITH THE RAILROAD TRACKS???)?'" Rice said. "And so we were just talking about the various explanations that had been given about why that might not have been done.
"It was an exhibit about the train tracks (bd: Can we forget about the FUCKING RAILROAD TRACKS????????? I THINK THERE'S THE IRAQ WAR GOING ON!!!). And so we were just talking about the various explanations because, you know, there are three or four different explanations about why the United States chose not to try to bomb the train tracks," she said.
Rice did not detail those reasons.
Later Friday night, asked about Rice's remarks to reporters, Shalev told the AP the president was not specific about what the Allies should have bombed (bd: This is actually really sad...).
Tom Segev, a leading Israeli scholar of the Holocaust, said Bush's reported comment, which appeared spontaneous (bd: WOW! Did you hear that? It appeared spontaneous!), marked the first time a U.S. president had made this acknowledgment (bd: The conversation then switched from "railroad tracks" to whether Bush's reported comment "appeared spontaneous"...for several hours, like the railroad track conversation.).
"It is clear now that the U.S. knew a lot about it," Segev said. "It's possible that bombing at least the railway (bd: The railroad tracks again! Bomb the fucking railroad tracks already!) to the camps may have saved the lives of the Jews of Hungary. They were the very last ones who were sent to Auschwitz at a time when everybody knew what was going on."
At the dedication of the U.S. Holocaust Memorial Museum in Washington in 1993, Nobel Peace Prize laureate Elie Wiesel famously asked, "Why weren't the railways leading to Birkenau bombed by allied bombers? As long as I live I will not understand that (bd: It was so famous, that no one ever knew that, until they read this article)."
At that same dedication, former President Bill Clinton said that the West has to "live forever with this knowledge ... (that) far too little was done," and that "rail lines to the camps within miles of militarily significant targets were left undisturbed (bd: Note to self: the holocaust was caused by not bombing railroad tracks.)."
Segev said the question of a bombing was not so clear cut, noting that it wasn't certain the United States had the ability to carry out such an operation (bd: They had the ability to annihilate the "Axis of evil: Russia, Germany, & Japan...but not the ability to bomb railroad tracks. Maybe some smart Americans said it wasn't a great idea? Just askin'...)
In a response to a request that U.S. forces bomb Auschwitz and the rail lines, John J. McCloy, Roosevelt's assistant secretary of war, laid out the U.S. rationale for inaction.
"Such an operation could be executed only by the diversion of considerable air support essential to the success of our forces now engaged in decisive operations elsewhere and would in any case be of such doubtful efficacy that it would not be warrant use of our resources," he wrote in an Aug. 14, 1944, letter (bd: Did you hear that, GW??? NOW QUIT SAYING 'BOMB THE RAILROAD TRACKS'!!!).
Holocaust scholar Michael Berenbaum said the photo presentation at the museum, and Bush's reported comments there, do not reflect the difficulties in bombing Auschwitz.
"It would have been a much more complex decision than what is presumed here," said Berenbaum, who teaches at the American Jewish University in Los Angeles.
Berenbaum said the aerial photos that Bush saw at the museum were not developed from the negatives until 1977 (bd: The "complex" ones, that Bush didn't understand.), nor were they taken purposely to depict Auschwitz. U.S. intelligence forces took them during a bombing campaign on a German chemical plant nearby, which they carried out in August 1944 (bd: This explains Bush's bad decision to 'bomb the railroad tracks').
But he also said there is no question that had the Allies been interested, they could have bombed Auschwitz and saved lives (bd: Apparently they weren't interested). By the time the idea was raised in summer 1944, they could have bombed the camp and the railway tracks leading to it using air bases in Italy or, if they had wanted to earlier, from Soviet territory (bd: But they didn't want to...Bush would have bombed the railroad tracks, and we would've lost WWI...THANK GOD HE WASN'T PRESIDENT BACK THEN!).
"The Americans flubbed it," Berenbaum said. "The bombing could have weakened the infrastructure and made it more difficult to kill with the efficacy with which they killed (bd: They flubbed WHAT? I thought we WON WWII, didn't we???)."
In an article Berenbaum wrote for Encyclopaedia Britannica, he quoted Wiesel, who was a prisoner at Buna-Monowitz, the slave-labor camp of Auschwitz, as saying that inmates were "filled with joy" over the August 1944 Allied bombing of an adjacent plant (bd: Were there railroad tracks there?). "We were no longer afraid of death; at any rate, not of that death," he quoted Wiesel as saying.
The David S. Wyman Institute for Holocaust Studies in Washington issued a statement praising Bush's reported remark (bd: Instead of these JOKERS working on an Israeli/Palestinian agreement, it's the "railroad tracks" from half a century ago...so sad!).
"The refusal to bomb Auschwitz was part of a broader policy by the Roosevelt administration to (bd: Win WWII.) refrain from taking action to rescue or shelter Jewish refugees during the Holocaust. Tragically, the United States turned away from one of history's most compelling moral challenges," said Rafael Medoff, the institute's director.
Eliezer Schweid, a professor of Jewish Thought at Israel's Hebrew University, said the question of a bombing is irrelevant in retrospect (bd: What? Someone there making sense?).
World Jewish leadership "was afraid to ask publicly" for the Allies to bomb the death camps, believing that would turn the conflict into a war for the Jews, Schweid said.
Bush was accompanied on his tour by a small party that included Rice, Israeli Prime Minister Ehud Olmert and Israeli President Shimon Peres (bd: ...and a guy who mixes a helluva 'Mohito'!!!).
At the compound, overlooking a forest on Jerusalem's outskirts, Bush visited a memorial to the 1.5 million Jewish children killed in the Holocaust, featuring six candles reflected 1.5 million times in a hall of mirrors (bd: Too cheap to actually light 1.5 million real candles).
At the site's Hall of Remembrance, he heard a cantor chant a Jewish prayer for the dead. There, Bush, wearing a yarmulke (bd: What's a yarmulke?) , placed a red, white and blue wreath on a stone slab that covers ashes of Holocaust victims taken from six extermination camps. He also lit a torch memorializing the victims (bd: Call me crazy, but I wouldn't let Bush light a torch without supervision.).
"I was most impressed that people in the face of horror and evil would not forsake their God. In the face of unspeakable crimes against humanity, brave souls — young and old — stood strong for what they believe," Bush said (bd: Then Bush dropped the torch and accidentally set the place on fire!).
"I wish as many people as possible would come to this place (bd: We would, it's just that the economy is crashing over here in America). It is a sobering reminder that evil exists, and a call that when evil exists we must resist it (bd: Oh, I agree! Why don't you just stay over there?)," he said.
The memorial was closed to the public and under heavy guard Friday (bd: Hmmm...why? People don't like George W. Bush? Or something?), with armed soldiers standing atop some of the site's monuments and a police helicopter and surveillance blimp overhead (bd: The GoodYarmulke Blimp).
It was Bush's second visit to the memorial. His first was in 1998, as governor of Texas (bd: And he spent 12 hours talking about bombing the railroad tracks with tears welled up in his eyes...). The last sitting U.S. president to visit was Clinton in 1994.
In the visitors' book, the president wrote simply, "God bless Israel, George Bush. (bd: AND GOD HELP US ALL, HERE IN AMERICA!)"
(written by a coupla idiotic) AP writers Diaa Hadid in Jerusalem and Lily Hindy in New York and AP investigative researcher Randy Herschaft in New York contributed to this report.
