With the takedown of Libya (we always seem to have BILLIONS for global ventures, while cutting things for Americans at home), it looks like now we are in store for FAKE "news" about Iran so we can attack them next. All of these Middle East wars, one after another, is EXACTLY the charter for PNAC (the Project for a New American Century):
It begs the question: do we have a democracy and an elected government? It seems Obama is just the puppet to continue the PNAC project. Party doesn't matter. That would explain why Obama has started even MORE wars than Bush, even though promising the opposite. It would seem that BOTH parties are in on this, and pretend there are differences between them. These differences are pushed by the mainstream media they control (if both parties are controlled, don't you think the mainstream media is even EASIER to control? it's owned by about 5 corporations). Inconsequential difference such as gay marriage and abortion. The bottom line is that BOTH parties forge ahead with the PNAC agenda of funnelling our tax money for endless wars in the Middle East. The mainstream media (MSM) sets it up and both parties knock it down. The MSM puts out FAKE "news" about the next Middle East country we're going to bomb. Watch for it. Now that Gadaffi is gone, watch for Iran and Ahmadinijhad. Or maybe it will be some other Middle East country next, but eventually look for FAKE "news" on Iran and Ahmadinejad. We saw it already with the Iranian who tried to assassinate a Saudi Arabian in the U.S. That story falls totally apart when examined closer than what the MSM is telling us. (I covered that already in previous posts).
Did you notice NEITHER PARTY speaks out against the growing police state or the police brutality against the Occupy Wall St protesters? Just like BOTH parties continue the PNAC wars in the Middle East. BOTH parties don't GIVE A SHIT ABOUT YOU!!! They are the visible government, with pretend elections, and pretend differences, who are controlled by the 1% and the PNAC agenda is part of the 1% agenda...not OUR agenda (the 99%).
You are ON YOUR OWN, learning these things. The government and the controlled MSM is LYING to you. There's not going to be a course in school: "HOW YOUR GOVT & MSM IS LYING TO YOU".
The Project for the New American Century.
PNAC said, in THEIR OWN WORDS, we need a "new Pearl Harbor" event to swiftly enact the endless wars in the Middle East...and then 9/11 conveniently happened (and the official story is FALSE, see the videos immediately following these Libya videos):
While many may say the "War on Terror" was Bush's war, a legacy Obama has inherited, it is clear through Obama's "actions" that the war has continued on in earnest, even expanded, following the same path with all but superficial rhetoric affixed to give it a more "progressive' look.
Israel And America Declare Total War on Persia, These are dangerous times.
Our troops will be out there forever. Do you really believe the latest FAKE "news" that Obama is "bringing the troops home"? You are an IDIOT, if you believe that. Also, the police state at home is easier to install, if our troops are abroad forever.
THE 1% HAVE BOUGHT OUT AND RIGGED: LAW ENFORCEMENT/COURTS/NEWS/FINANCIAL SYSTEM/HEALTH CARE SYSTEM/VOTING AND USE FALSE FLAG TERRORISM TO KEEP IT GOING
Two must-see videos about Libya:
During the reign of Gaddafi in Libya:
1. There is no electricity bill in Libya; electricity is free for all its citizens.
2. There is no interest on loans, banks in Libya are state-owned and loans given to all its citizens at 0% interest by law.
3. Home considered a human right in Libya
4. All newlyweds in Libya receive $60,000 Dinar(US$50,000) by the government to buy their first apartment so to help start up the family.
5. Education and medical treatments are free in Libya. Before Gaddafi only 25% of Libyans were literate. Today the figure is 83%.
6. Should Libyans want to take up a farming career, they would receive farming land, a farming house, equipments, seeds and livestock to kick-start their farms – all for free.
7. If Libyans cannot find the education or medical facilities they need in Libya, the government funds them to go abroad for it – not only free but they get US$2,300/mth accommodation and car allowance.
8. In Libyan, if a Libyan buys a car, the government subsidized 50% of the price.
9. The price of petrol in Libya is $0.14 per liter.
10. Libya has no external debt and its reserves amount to $150 billion – now frozen globally.
11. If a Libyan is unable to get employment after graduation the state would pay the average salary of the profession as if he or she is employed until employment is found.
12. A portion of Libyan oil sale is credited directly to the bank accounts of all Libyan citizens ($5000/resident/year).
13. A mother who gives birth to a child receives US$5,000
14. 40 loaves of bread in Libya costs $ 0.15
15. 25% of Libyans have a university degree
16. Gaddafi carried out the world’s largest irrigation project, known as the Great Man-Made River project, to make water readily available throughout the desert country.
Veterans Today: The Strange Tale of Why Libya Is Broke?
The End of History: Now that the CIA’s proxy army has murdered Gadhafi, what next for Libya? by Dr. Paul Craig Roberts
The war in Libya is just the start of a new cycle of external military adventurism inside Africa. The U.S. now wants more military bases inside Africa.
The PNAC "new Pearl Harbor" to swiftly begin the endless wars in the Middle East WAS 9/11:
("the Muslims" didn't do it, the PNAC guys, FBI, CIA, & Mossad did it! Do you believe the story told to us by TV guys and politicians, that some "Muslims" took some flight lessons, then, directed by a guy in a cave, commandeered BOEINGS for hours, doing acrobatic moves that hundreds of accredited pilots testify that they themselves could not do, then steel frame skyscrapers fell freefall speed in 6 seconds, one not even hit by a plane - WTC7? Do you believe that? The story with ZERO proof? Do you believe 50 miracles happened that day? Or do you believe these REAL EXPERTS - architects, engineers, scientists, physicists, psychologists, and more - below in these videos?)
9/11 debate between PLUNGER and JUSTIN VACULA on BDBB (CLICK HERE).
PLUNGER:
Hot Rhetoric and labels:
We're all just people. The dividers seek to label us as separate, one from another - polarized.
But in the end, we're all just people - one.
What does "Truther" imply? One who seeks the truth?
What would the opposite goal be?
One who actively seeks to avoid knowing the truth - or allowing it to become known?
Would this group be called "Truth Deniers?"
By whom?
Who would wish to label themselves as such?
Nobody.
Truthers did not select this label for themselves, the dividers did.
Truthers accepted it - but did not invent this branding strategy.
Why did the dividers not create a brand for those not identified as "Truthers?"
Because the seek to minimize the size and significance of those seeking the truth - marginalizing them as apart from the majority, when in fact, they are the 99%
All citizens seek truth.
15 minutes: WTC7
the 2 hour blockbuster movie:
15 minutes: psychologists offer help to those who believe lies
Foreknowledge of Building 7's Collapse : Dr. Graeme MacQueen (short version)
Next up on the PNAC agenda: FAKE "news" on Iran & Ahmadinijhad and then both parties will rush onto TV (the controlled MSM) to say "WE NEED TO BOMB IRAN" -
John McCain: BOMB BOMB BOMB IRAN
Other great news and videos NOT BEING SPREAD VIA THE MAINSTREAM MEDIA PROPAGANDA TV/RADIO/NEWSPAPERS/TALK SHOWS/NEWS BRIEFS (like they're spreading the Michael Jackson trial, dead zoo animals, etc...things not important to all of us):
The great Chris Hedges OWNS a mainstream media 1% shill:
Michel Chossudovsky On OWS Movement & Libyan War
WHILE YOU WERE SLEEPING: Louisiana banned CASH for buying non-brand new items (remember 1913 the FED was put into existence on a Christmas break!):
Louisiana Black Guy passes test legislation TOTALLY UNDER THE RADAR OF A STATE THAT HAS NO RADAR on behalf of NWO to see whether they can roll the concept out nationally.
Just say no to Craigslist.
Just say no to garage sales.
Say goodbye to Lemonade Stands.
Just say "no" to ALL CASH TRANSACTIONS.
Just wave goodbye to greenbacks.
SAY HELLO TO MICROCHIPS IMPLANTED UNDER YOUR SKIN, AND EVERY TRANSACTION - TRACKED AND TAXED. - plunger
CIA agent and agent of Israel, CNN's Anderson Cooper to Ron Paul: WHAT ABOUT ISRAEL???
USA Has A History Of Attacking Themselves To Go To War
EXCELLENT ANALYSIS of "the global war on terror":
Thoughts From Within - Woody Harrelson
FREE way to OCCUPY WALL ST:
YOU'RE UNDER ARREST FOR READING THIS BLOG!!!
(you're supposed to be watching Letterman & Leno, and listening to radio news briefs)
Word!
ReplyDeleteNOTICE: they say this law was passed during a busy session, no one really knew it, merchants didn't know it...sound familiar? 1913 the fed?
ReplyDeleteLaw Bans Cash for Second Hand Transactions in Louisiana - Bill 195 - bye bye America
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E921bhGMGvU
Exposed! Alhurra – the Zionist ‘Arab’ news network.
ReplyDeletehttp://axisoflogic.com/artman/publish/Article_63905.shtml
It's nearly impossible to find a legislative or regulatory issue
ReplyDeleterelated to food and agriculture that hasn't been deeply shaped (if not
outright written) by corporate lobbyists.http://www.truth-out.org/food-system-pays-dearly-wall-street-occupies-washington/1319462814
New York cops defy order to arrest hundreds of ‘Occupy Albany’ protesters
ReplyDeleteOccupy Albany protesters in New York’s capital city received an unexpected ally over the week: The state and local authorities.
http://www.rawstory.com/rs/2011/10/24/new-york-cops-defy-order-to-arrest-hundreds-of-occupy-protesters/
Here's that one heroic Marine who actually fought for our freedom and way of life:
ReplyDeleteVet vs NYPD: Marine turns tables on cop gang mentality
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f_RSPauuhNs&sns=fb
Interview with Swiss banker reveals Bilderberg 2011 plans for internet censorship are coming
ReplyDeletehttp://bilderberg2011.com/bilderberg-agenda/interview-with-swiss-banker-reveals-bilderberg-2011-plans-for-internet-censorship-are-coming/
THE WELL OILED MEDIA
ReplyDeleteWhere are the moderating voices, the views of those who stand against
the momentum of war, who challenge the self-serving rationalizations of
empire? You are unlikely to find them in the major media.http://rosenlake.net/er/media_oil.html
The Origins of the Overclass
ReplyDeleteBy Steve Kangas
http://www.huppi.com/kangaroo/L-overclass.html
Former CIA agent CNN's Anderson Cooper rant on Ron Paul:
ReplyDeletehttp://www.prisonplanet.com/cnns-anderson-cooper-in-desperate-anti-ron-paul-rant.html
While many may say the "War on Terror" was Bush's war, a legacy Obama
ReplyDeletehas inherited, it is clear through Obama's "actions" that the war has
continued on in earnest, even expanded, following the same path with all
but superficial rhetoric affixed to give it a more "progressive' look.
http://landdestroyer.blogspot.com/2011/09/war-on-terror-is-fraud.html
the “rebels” were so happy that the US paid at least two billion dollars for the overthrow of Qaddafihttp://cindysheehanssoapbox.blogspot.com/2011/10/united-rogue-states-of-america-by-cindy.html
ReplyDeleteHere’s why Yahoo! puts out anti-Occupation propaganda—and one thing you can do about it #ows
ReplyDeleteFrom K. R. Large (edited for brevity):
The chairman of Yahoo! is Roy Bostock, who also serves on the board
of directors of Morgan Stanley. In September, Bostock named, as Yahoo’s
CEO, Tim Morse, who’s spent his life in financial management. (Prior to
his stint as Yahoo!’s Chief Financial Officer, he spent a long time at
GE, on the financial side.)
I won’t be wasting my time complaining about this propaganda cast as “news,” but I will be removing Yahoo! from my search engine options, and refrain from using any of their services.
Sadly, Yahoo! has been corporatized, so I expect many similar attacks
from its news feeds on the #OWS movement—which dares to advocate direct
democracy and a balanced share of power and wealth for the 99% of the
world’s population betrayed by the present system.
http://markcrispinmiller.com/2011/10/heres-why-yahoo-puts-out-anti-occupation-propaganda%E2%80%94and-one-thing-you-can-do-about-it-ows/
Bank of America – FDIC Robbery In Progress with Toxic Derivatives
ReplyDelete56
Bernanke is OK with BoA looting the FDIC - Geithner ???
BofA Putting $79 Trillion in Toxic Derivatives Onto Taxpayers Backs
http://www.veteranstoday.com/2011/10/20/bank-of-americas-fdic-robbery-in-progress/
The suspicious behavior of George W. Bush during the 9/11 attackshttp://www.informationliberation.com/index.php?id=23675
ReplyDeleteI still believe we will stop World War III but we must all join
ReplyDeletetogether and expose this latest Iran bomb hoax as the joke it is.
We have 72 hours to turn this Iranian bomb hoax into a joke. If we
fail, we will die. I believe we will win this fight. We need a victory. A
win will boost both the anti-war and the anti-Wall Street movements.
Join this fight now.
Pass this message along in your words and ways to anyone who will
listen. If there is an Occupy Wall Street or an End the FED rally near
you or if you have direct contact with their leaders, please tell them
this:
The suspect is a drunken, pot smoking used car salesman from Texas. This is a joke.
http://vidrebel.wordpress.com/2011/10/13/you-have-72-hours-to-stop-ww-iii-by-turning-the-iran-bomb-hoax-into-a-joke/
Video Rebel's Blog
ReplyDeletehttp://vidrebel.wordpress.com/
How to Spot Psychopaths: Speech Patterns Give Them Away
ReplyDeletehttp://www.livescience.com/16585-psychopaths-speech-language.html
A 2'fer:
ReplyDelete'Die Welt': Iran building rocket bases in Venezuela
http://www.jpost.com/International/Article.aspx?id=220879
They should just say: "ALL COUNTRY'S ISRAEL WANTS US TO BOMB FOR THEM ARE BUILDING ROCKET BASES IN EACH OTHERS' COUNTRY'S AND WE NEED TO BOMB THEM ALL".
Louisiana Black Guy passes test legislation TOTALLY UNDER THE RADAR OF A STATE THAT HAS NO RADAR on behalf of NWO to see whether they can roll the concept out nationally.
ReplyDeleteJust say no to Craigslist.
Just say no to garage sales.
Say goodbye to Lemonade Stands.
Just say "no" to ALL CASH TRANSACTIONS.
Just wave goodbye to greenbacks.
SAY HELLO TO MICROCHIPS IMPLANTED UNDER YOUR SKIN, AND EVERY TRANSACTION - TRACKED AND TAXED.
Wal-Mart
ReplyDeleteStores Inc will no longer offer health insurance to new part-time U.S.
employees who work fewer than 24 hours a week and will charge workers
who use tobacco more for coverage as healthcare costs rise, the company
said on Friday.http://www.reuters.com/article/2011/10/21/us-walmart-idUSTRE79K43Z20111021
(this has to be a joke, although they're making a point)
ReplyDeleteOMG! Rabbi Admits Mossad did 911 WITH Prior Knowledge and Laughs about it!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BNe263T7cBg
Mitch Hedberg (VERY funny guy, died of an OD in 2005, died young)
ReplyDeletehttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2491LucLa1g
Mitch Hedberg - Smackie the frog
ReplyDeletehttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ME1u-VzqhUM&feature=fvst
General Chronological Studies: 540 - 1799http://www.puppstheories.com/forum/index.php?showtopic=436&hl
ReplyDeleteOther thoughts:
ReplyDeleteNOTE: I won't alter the above HUGE comment again, because I've gone back into them and it immediately put it back to the pre-edited stated and I had to do that work all over again.
JV, answer this: if Ghadaffi did the following list for his people during his regime, why do you believe what you see on TV aren't just either staged or tight shots of not as many people as you think?
During the reign of Gaddafi in Libya:
1. There is no electricity bill in Libya; electricity is free for all its citizens.
2. There is no interest on loans, banks in Libya are state-owned and loans given to all its citizens at 0% interest by law.
3. Home considered a human right in Libya
4. All newlyweds in Libya receive $60,000 Dinar(US$50,000) by the
government to buy their first apartment so to help start up the family.
5. Education and medical treatments are free in Libya. Before Gaddafi
only 25% of Libyans were literate. Today the figure is 83%.
6. Should Libyans want to take up a farming career, they would receive
farming land, a farming house, equipments, seeds and livestock to
kick-start their farms – all for free.
7. If Libyans cannot find the education or medical facilities they need
in Libya, the government funds them to go abroad for it – not only free
but they get US$2,300/mth accommodation and car allowance.
8. In Libyan, if a Libyan buys a car, the government subsidized 50% of the price.
9. The price of petrol in Libya is $0.14 per liter.
10. Libya has no external debt and its reserves amount to $150 billion – now frozen globally.
11. If a Libyan is unable to get employment after graduation the state
would pay the average salary of the profession as if he or she is
employed until employment is found.
12. A portion of Libyan oil sale is credited directly to the bank accounts of all Libyan citizens ($5000/resident/year).
13. A mother who gives birth to a child receives US$5,000
14. 40 loaves of bread in Libya costs $ 0.15
15. 25% of Libyans have a university degree
16. Gaddafi carried out the world’s largest irrigation project, known as
the Great Man-Made River project, to make water readily available
throughout the desert country.
That's exactly what my friend Anthony Antonello said.
ReplyDeleteJV: would you like to see some FAKE NEWS? Here's CNN with a FAKE broadcast from the first Iraq War under Bush's father:
ReplyDeletehttp://i3.ytimg.com/vi/jTWY14eyMFg/default.jpg
I'd like you to respond to that! Or will you IGNORE it?
The VNR: Video News Release, FAKE NEWS:
ReplyDeletehttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UMIh4yucVUc
FAKED 15-YO KUWAITI GIRL TESTIMONY BEFORE CONGRESS, 1990
ReplyDeletehttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LmfVs3WaE9Y
And of course, plunger on FAKE NEWS:
ReplyDeletehttp://plungerspeaks.blogspot.com/2006/09/fake-news.html
New Global Protest Planned for G-20, Police Crash Occupy Sites, Essay: What Threatens The Media?
ReplyDeletehttp://www.newsdissector.com/2011/10/26/new-global-protest-planned-for-g-20-police-crash-occupy-sites-essay-what-threatens-the-media/
I put this up on FB:
ReplyDelete9/11 debate between PLUNGER and JUSTIN VACULA on Big Dan's Big Blog in the comments section:
http://bigdanblogger.blogspot.com/2011/10/1-have-bought-out-and-rigged-law.html#comment-342927099
...and as a link in the latest post.
Hey Dan...
ReplyDeleteYour link at "The suspicious behavior of George W. Bush during the 9/11" up above is screwed up!
"Raise red herrings and personal attacks all
ReplyDeleteday"
"I'm not strawmanning '9/11 truthers'"
Justin Vacula
" I have not devoted a significant amount of time to study of the 9/11 attacks"
Justin Vacula
A straw man is a component of an argument and is an informal fallacy based on misrepresentation of an opponent's position, twisting his words or by means of [false] assumptions.[1]
ReplyDeleteTo "attack a straw man" is to create the illusion of having refuted a
proposition by replacing it with a superficially similar yet
unequivalent proposition (the "straw man"), and refuting it, without
ever having actually refuted the original position.[1][2]
Generally, the straw man is a highly exaggerated or over-simplified
version of the opponent's original statement, which has been distorted
to the point of absurdity. This exaggerated or distorted statement is thus easily argued against, but is a misrepresentation of the opponent's actual statement.
The straw man fallacy occurs in the following pattern of argument:
ReplyDeletePerson A has position X.
Person B disregards certain key points of X and instead presents the superficially similar position Y. Thus, Y is a resulting distorted version of X and can be set up in several ways, including:
Presenting a misrepresentation of the opponent's position.
Quoting an opponent's words out of context — i.e. choosing quotations that misrepresent the opponent's actual intentions (see fallacy of quoting out of context).[2]
Presenting someone who defends a position poorly as the defender, then refuting that person's arguments — thus giving the appearance that every upholder of that position (and thus the position itself) has been defeated.[1]
Inventing a fictitious persona with actions or beliefs which are then criticized, implying that the person represents a group of whom the speaker is critical.Oversimplifying an opponent's argument, then attacking this oversimplified version.
Person B attacks position Y, concluding that X is false/incorrect/flawed.
This sort of "reasoning" is fallacious, because attacking a distorted version of a position fails to constitute an attack on the actual position.
"I'm not strawmanning '9/11 truthers'"
ReplyDeleteJustin Vacula
Denial is “an assertion that something said, believed, alleged, etc., is false”.
ReplyDeleteCognitive Dissonance is “A condition of conflict or anxiety resulting from inconsistency between one’s beliefs and one’s actions”.
Confirmation Bias
is “a tendency for people to prefer information that confirms their
preconceptions or hypotheses, independently of whether they are true”.
Official Denial = Confirmation...
"I'm not strawmanning" =
"I AM STRAWMANNING"
Justin fancies himself an intellectual, specifically, a debater. He can be found debating positions all over the internet. He debates like it's his obsession, if only for the sport of it. Then changes his positions when he actually puts in the time or miles or years required to learn how things really are.
ReplyDeleteDebate, for debate's sake, is not why we're here.
TRUTH.
BTW, JUSTIN, WHY DO YOU HAVE ME BLOCKED FROM BEING YOUR FRIEND ON FACEBOOK?
ReplyDeleteI have other friends who can see you on facebook.
Generally, the straw man is a highly exaggerated or over-simplified
ReplyDeleteversion of the opponent's original statement, which has been distorted
to the point of absurdity.
Distorted to the point of absurdity...
Like making a comparison between Creationists and 9/11 Truthers, or, apples & oranges.
Generally, the straw man is a highly exaggerated or over-simplified
ReplyDeleteversion of the opponent's original statement, which has been distorted
to the point of absurdity.
You may wish to consider that Justin is playing a part on behalf of an agency. Why did you encounter him? Why is he here? On whose behalf?
ReplyDeleteAgent Provocateur
More generally, the term may refer to a person or group that seeks to
discredit or harm another by provoking them to commit a wrong or rash
action.
United States
In the United States, the COINTELPRO program of the Federal Bureau of Investigation had FBI agents pose as political radicals to disrupt the activities of political groups in the U.S., such as the Black Panthers, Ku Klux Klan, and the Student Nonviolent Coordinating Committee.
New York City police officers were accused of acting as agents provocateurs during protests against the 2004 Republican National Convention in New York City.[4]
Denver police officers were also found to have used undercover detectives to instigate violence against police during the 2008 Democratic National Convention. This ultimately resulted in the use of pepper spray against their own infiltrating agents.
It's a trial balloon.
ReplyDeleteA classic example: http://bluebear2.blogspot.com/2007/08/police-busted-trying-to-start-riot.html
ReplyDeleteInteresting comments by Cindy Sheehan on FB:Cindy Sheehan I
ReplyDeletelike the way Elise called it "national navel gazing" or something like
that. My beef with the 9/11 movement is that it almost always ignores
the fact that people had/have legitimate reasons to hate the US and want
to attack us.about an hour ago · LikeCindy Sheehan that's why Louis got so angry, IMHO; he wants to think the 9/11 was an aberration, not the rule.
To be honest, at the top of my blog I used to have Raw Story as one of the "big four" news sites. Now it's the "big three": Washington's Blog, What Really Happened, and TVNewsLies. If you read those sites every day, you'll have a pretty well rounded idea of what's really going on.
ReplyDeleteRaw Story seems different. I forget why, but at one point I thought it wasn't the same anymore. I think Plunger separately came to that conclusion, too.
I saw some stories on RS that would be from, say, a site like the Huffington Post. Not that RS and HP aren't GOOD, but they're limited hangout/gatekeepers. RS isn't as bad as HP. Again: both do have good stories, but not ALL the good stories.
Well, one thing for sure, he's the ONLY person I can remember in recent memory that believes the official story. I've stopped at least 50 random passersby at the local Occupy protests in Scranton and Wilkes-Barre, and it even astounded ME that the percentage was MUCH HIGHER than I thought of random people I asked about the official story. That astounding percentage? 100% of the people I stopped did NOT believe the official 9/11 story! Yes, that is MINDBLOWING! Even I did not expect that. And I mean I stopped people passing through that had NOTHING to do with the protest, just people passing through the square in Wilkes-Barre and the square in Scranton. The people actually participating in the protest? Also 100%. I was really floored by this. Which makes me think the percentage of people who do NOT believe the official story is MUCH MUCH HIGHER than they are telling us. But does that surprise you?
ReplyDeleteI was expecting like 50/50, and that would be high. I would have been HAPPY with 50/50. 40/60 or even 25/75 would not have surprised me at all. On the other side of the spectrum, if EVERYONE BELIEVED the official story, that would've floored me on the other end! I think I would've just given up! lol :) But 100%, I totally did not expect. And RANDOM passersby, just ANYBODY I was stopping.
I guess Justin Vacula didn't walk by!
Yup. They practice this in drills all the time - taking turns being the bad guy and getting cuffed. When they run an agents provacateur scam, it's just another drill for them.
ReplyDeleteShortly after HP was bought out, it became obvious the Raw had changed as well...all of which fell on the heels of a new editorial staff at FDL and their related sites, and my banishment.
ReplyDeleteAssume that every slick site with a big following, but without an obvious revenue model, is in fact, a limited hangout site
Justin is a local Kings College (Wilkes-Barre) student. I'm not sure if he's STILL there, graduated, or whatever. But he got media coverage because he got an ACLU suit against the Luzerne County Courthouse for displaying a manger/nativity. Because this area has rightwing talk shows with crazy religious people, it made a big stink over the airwaves so he got 15 minutes of fame.
ReplyDeleteThen in the book NEPATIZED, I'm in it and so is he. Him for his ACLU/manger/nativity thing and me for my local media analysis of our rightwing WILK radio station.
At a booksigning of NEPATIZED, the author Kenny Luck was at a table signing the book and for some reason Justin Vacula was at the table sitting with him, although he had nothing to do with the writing of the book (as far as I know, it was only written by Kenny Luck).
I got into about an hour long conversation with the both of them. I liked both of them, and we basically agreed on everything we talked about, although the subject of 9/11 did not come up. I have no idea what Kenny Luck's thoughts are on 9/11.
http://bigdanblogger.blogspot.com/search/label/NEPATIZED
THE...famous bluebear agent provocateur post!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
ReplyDeleteNow I remember that I came home and friended Justin Vacula on facebook right after the booksigning. I DID notice a long time ago that I was no longer "friends" with him on facebook, a LONG time ago, in fact probably the date of that NEPATIZED post above on my blog. But I didn't think anything of it. Actually, I though: "SO???" lol But NOW it seems fishy that he unfriended me after our very good conversation at the book signing and he begins to argue 9/11 with me on my blog. Now REMEMBER: the first argument, which was a few months ago, which you PARTOOKED in, plunger, he said something along the lines of: I NEVER SPOKE ABOUT 9/11, BUT NOW I AM GOING TO FINALLY STATE MY THOUGHTS ABOUT 9/11, AND IT IS THAT THE OFFICIAL STORY IS TRUE AND THOSE WHO DON'T BELIEVE IT ARE NUTS (again, paraphrased).
ReplyDeleteALSO...another twist in this, is it turns out my daughter's boyfriend knows him from a long time ago, and I don't want to get into that right now, what my daughter's boyfriend thinks of him, but it's not good, we'll just leave it at that. That leads me to believe he may be from this area, if my daughter's boyfriend knows him, but I have no desire to look that up at this time. Nor continue circular arguments with him, from which he basically says (paraphrased): I DON'T KNOW MUCH ABOUT 9/11, DIDN'T RESEARCH IT MUCH, BUT I'M RIGHT ABOUT IT!
ReplyDeleteFrankly, Justin comes off as ARRONGANT and FULL OF HIMSELF - IE: NOT HUMBLE.
ReplyDelete"I argue and debate with anyone - on any topic, any time, on any side of any position, until I change my mind."
ReplyDeleteJustin Vacula
One day, when Justin Vacula actually takes the time to study 9/11,
instead of just yacking & attacking those who have, it will look
something like this when the revelation hits that he's been wrong:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V3FnpaWQJO0&feature=related
The Triumph of America's Supranational Emergency State
ReplyDeleteToday marks the 10th anniversary of the destruction of the American
Constitution. On October 26, 2001, the Bush administration and U.S.
Congress passed the Patriot (Traitor) Act and used the false flag 9/11
attacks to sell it to the American people.
The prediction that
the Traitor Act would help the U.S. National Security State completely
take over American society has come true. Useless government agencies
like the TSA, FBI, IRS, DEA and CIA have been given carte blanche to spy
on Americans and crush dissent.
In the last few years, illegal
TSA checkpoints have been set up across America to control the movement
of people and create a false sense of security in the public mind. Their
intent is to get Americans to slowly conform to the new totalitarian
society in which government officials treat people like mindless cattle
and monitor the individual's every move.
It is wrong to call
America's totalitarian beast "a National Security State." It does not
provide security and it is not even national. A more fitting term is
"Supranational Emergency State." Let me explain.
http://disquietreservations.blogspot.com/
disclaimer: The above quote is actually not a quote at all. I made it up. Justin is not that self-aware.
ReplyDeleteThought you would enjoy this...Joshua Blakeney on 9/11 and the war on terror.
ReplyDeletehttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0TcEDWcubps
Nevermind!!!!!!!!!!!!
ReplyDeleteWell, like on one of those sites Justin has quoted, I think it was debunking911, they have things like the "pod people" 9/11 theory, and then destroy it. NO ONE LEGIT IS EVEN PUSHING THAT THEORY! So they say things on debunking911 like "THE 9/11 NUTS BELIEVE IN THIS POD PEOPLE THEORY, AND WE ARE GOING TO DESTROY THAT", so they proceed to destroy something the 9/11 movement doesn't even subscribe to.
ReplyDeleteHere's one of the sites Justin Vacula quotes from, debunking911:
Debunking911.com; A sophisticated Neocon Propaganda Site Designed To Counteract The 9/11 Truth movem
http://www.abovetopsecret.com/forum/thread367589/pg1
Now here's the question: Justin will obviously put some time into reading DEBUNKERS sites, but not the ACTUAL PEOPLE THEY DEBUNK! So Justin relies on a 3rd party to tell him their filtered version of 9/11, so no WONDER Justin still believes the official story! Justin has also quoted NIST (a part of the government...ummmmm...ONE OF THE CULPRITS! conflict of interest) and a MAGAZINE (Popular Mechanics, which basically reruns NIST's non-scientific findings, so Popular Mechanics = NIST anyway, so it's really still NIST, DOES ANYONE GET THAT???).
Popular Mechanics Attacks Its "9/11 LIES" Straw Man
The Hearst-owned Popular Mechanics magazine takes aim
at the 9/11 Truth Movement
(without ever acknowledging it by that name)
with a cover story in its March 2005 edition.
Sandwiched between ads and features for monster trucks,
NASCAR paraphernalia, and off-road racing
are twelve dense and brilliantly designed pages
purporting to debunk the myths of 9/11.
The article's approach is to identify and attack a series of claims
which it asserts represent the whole of 9/11 skepticism.
It gives the false impression that these claims,
several of which are clearly absurd,
represent the breadth of challenges to the official account
of the flights, the World Trade Center attack, and the Pentagon attack.
Meanwhile it entirely ignores vast bodies of evidence
showing that only insiders had the
means, motive, and opportunity to carry out the attack.
http://911research.wtc7.net/essays/pm/
Am I right in saying that anything Popular Mechanics says is really just a retread of NIST, so therefore there is really no difference between NIST and Popular Mechanics?
Also, and I keep saying this...IT'S A FUCKING MAGAZINE! That NOT EVERYONE GETS! I never read ONE issue of Popular Mechanics in my life! Was the "official" story in ESPN Magazine, too? How about Sports Illustrated? How about Home and Garden, was it in Home and Garden, too? I NEVER "GOT" THE WHOLE POPULAR MECHANICS THING!!!! I think the "official" 9/11 story was in PEOPLE MAGAZINE! And TV GUIDE!
I think it's EMBARRASSING that people quote Popular Mechanics in the first place! How can you say, "Well here's why I believe the official story: in the latest issue of Popular Mechanics......" ???????????? wtf?
"1,602 scientists said.........................."
ReplyDelete"Well, I subscribe to Popular Mechanics, and they said..........." ------->>>>>>>>>> wtf???????????????????????????
Awesome. Scholarly. Informed.
ReplyDeletehttp://disquietreservations.blogspot.com/2011/10/former-ambassador-edward-peck-us.html
ReplyDeleteFormer Ambassador Edward Peck: The U.S. Capital Is Israeli Occupied Territory
Breaking AMAZING News caster tells people,goverment satanists exposed,wake up,29/06/11,MP4,mp4.
ReplyDeletehttp://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=C0giVL4j8mQ
Anyone seen Justin's ass? I handed it to him, but have yet to receive confirmation of delivery.
ReplyDeleteCheck out my comment on Justin Vacula's blog:
ReplyDeletehttp://www.justinvacula.com/2011/09/911-truthers-and-creationists-are.html
We Are the 99% (as we gather together)
ReplyDeletehttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IgEdrh617qs&feature=player_embedded
AE911Truth Supporters Inform Occupy Movement*** The Blog Continues ***
ReplyDeleteOutreach with WTC Evidence Yields Warm Reception with Positive Results
The “Occupy Wall Street” protests
nationwide have provided a new opportunity to educate the public about
the WTC skyscraper demolitions, and AE911Truth supporters and volunteers
are making an impact. 9/11 Truth activists have courteously reached
out to demonstrators at local “Occupy” events in a variety of ways,
including displaying the AE911Truth banner, wearing 9/11 truth T-shirts, and handing out our street brochures.
http://www.ae911truth.org/en/news-section/41-articles/572-ae911truth-supporters-inform-occupy-movement.html
Commenter at this link says:
ReplyDeleteFor those of you who think that 911 should be left behind in the history
books as the official bs story created by a group of sick pentagon war
mongers. Well think again, if they get away with this once what will
they do next? Therefore it is imperative that the truth and nothing but
the truth is divulged about the events that happened that treacherous
day. Otherwise your living in system controlled by lies and that
definitely is not very promising from the continuation of mankind. For
those of us that do not have the guts to pursue the truth, well your
children will have to pay for your cowardice.
http://www.kpfa.org/archive/id/73245
Brooklyn black-market kidney broker pleads guilty to selling Israeli organs to desperate Americans
ReplyDeleteRead more: http://www.nydailynews.com/news/ny_crime/2011/10/27/2011-10-27_brooklyn_blackmarket_kidney_broker_pleads_guilty_to_selling_israeli_organs_to_de.html#ixzz1c1Nf44YG
Notice this sentence in the article: "Prosecutors charged he was a profiteer who paid vulnerable Israelis as little as $10,000 to give up a kidney and charged desperate Americans $120,000 and up for the organs."
Original
ReplyDeleteRon Paul Tea Party founder (the REAL Tea Party, not the newer co-opted
by the GOP ones) Karl Denninger: police INTENTIONALLY hit Vet in head at
protest and he's in critical condition and may die:
http://market-ticker.org/akcs-www?post=196636
Did Oakland Police Intentionally Shoot Marine Vet Scott Olsen In the Head?
Marine Veteran Was Peacefully Standing When Attacked by Police
http://www.washingtonsblog.com/2011/10/how-obama-bernanke-and-geithner-treat-insolvent-fraudulent-banks.html
Video footage:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zEj_4fqDbnM&feature=player_embedded
Hot Rhetoric and labels:
ReplyDeleteWe're all just people. The dividers seek to label us as separate, one from another - polarized.
But in the end, we're all just people - one.
What does "Truther" imply? One who seeks the truth?
What would the opposite goal be?
One who actively seeks to avoid knowing the truth - or allowing it to become known?
Would this group be called "Truth Deniers?"
By whom?
Who would wish to label themselves as such?
Nobody.
Truthers did not select this label for themselves, the dividers did.
Truthers accepted it - but did not invent this branding strategy.
Why did the dividers not create a brand for those not identified as "Truthers?"
Because the seek to minimize the size and significance of those seeking the truth - marginalizing them as apart from the majority, when in fact, they are the 99%
All citizens seek truth.
People on FB are saying this video is being censored:
ReplyDeleteThoughts From Within - Woody Harrelson
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Dj0GZQdCct8&feature=channel_video_title
Now it's 1,632, growing every day!!!!!!!!! 30 joined since I posted the 1602 above!
ReplyDeleteA friend was going to go into that industry and I explained to him that he would be viewed as a pariah when all these elderly people were left homeless.
ReplyDeleteWhat you should know about the Occupy Wall Street movement
ReplyDeleteYou're not informed if you access only one or two sources for getting your information
What you should know about the Occupy Wall Street movement is not going
to come to you on Fox, MSNBC, CNN, or any other channel or medium of
main-stream media.
If MSM has been your source for knowledge, you cannot possibly know
what's going on. It is hoped that with the ten documentaries that
follow, you'll be able to see why our countrymen are occupying the
streets of America at this very moment.
At its most basic, Occupy Wall Street means it's time for all Americans to question what they believe.
http://www.squidoo.com/what-you-should-know-about-the-occupy-wall-street-movement
There
ReplyDeletewere many people who knew the Building 7 was going to collapse long
before it did. In this presentation, Dr. Graeme MacQueen presents
evidence for this peculiar foreknowledge. Its summarized and its
significance discussed. The argument is made that its impossible to
explain this foreknowledge on the basis of the collapse hypothesis
offered by the National Institute of Standards and Technology (NIST).
The only hypothesis that explains this foreknowledge is that of
controlled demolition.
Foreknowledge of Building 7's Collapse : Dr. Graeme MacQueen (short version)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bfwJMRgcLs0
OK, jump over into the comments here:
ReplyDeletehttp://www.justinvacula.com/2011/09/911-truthers-and-creationists-are.html
YEOW!!!!!!!!!!!
ReplyDeleteYOU GOTTA SEE THIS:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rjOwSIsgE8c
Is that HUGE, or what?????????
ReplyDeleteFREE way to Occupy Wall St:
ReplyDeletehttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2JlxbKtBkGM
No media cover up???????????
ReplyDeleteAfter 10 Years, 75% of New Yorkers Never Saw Footage of WTC Building 7
http://world911truth.org/after-10-years-75-of-new-yorkers-never-saw-footage-of-wtc-building-7/
The thought crossed my mind the other day: when they do a poll on how many believe the "official" 9/11 story, how do they phrase the question?
ReplyDelete1. If you have studied a lot about 9/11, answer this question: DO YOU STILL BELIEVE THE OFFICIAL STORY? If you haven't studied it at all except for what you saw on TV, you can't answer this question. We need a category: "DOESN'T KNOW ENOUGH ABOUT IT".
What I'm saying is: all the people who only "saw it on TV", why should they be counted as believing the official story? Or at least it should fall into a 3rd category: "DID NOT DO ENOUGH RESEARCH ON IT".
The purpose of SHILL sites like SCREWLOOSECHANGE, DEBUNKING911:
ReplyDeleteIn my argument with Justin Vacula, I posted the 3 great videos by Physicist David Chandler, on the North Tower, South Tower, and WTC7. Now how can someone within minutes "debunk" David Chandler?
You do a GOOGLE on David Chandler and look for the first hit on something debunking him, and how did I know beforehand you'd get SCREWLOOSECHANGE or DEBUNKING911:
http://www.google.com/search?sclient=psy-ab&hl=en&safe=off&source=hp&q=+one+reverse+mortgage&pbx=1&oq=+one+reverse+mortgage&aq=f&aqi=g10&aql=1&gs_sm=s&gs_upl=11972726l11976901l7l11980844l20l9l0l9l9l0l284l1677l0.7.2l18l0&biw=1280&bih=904&cad=cbv&sei=HSusTsqfBOn40gGnxbiVDw#pq=first+they+ignore+you&hl=en&sugexp=kjrmc&cp=11&gs_id=27&xhr=t&q=david+chandler&qe=ZGF2aWQgY2hhbmQ&qesig=4WQSANV0bJ2lfkfZziSYIQ&pkc=AFgZ2tkcm62uIhDq_13SdUelvb-ODN09uYjecpabiVBWQtK4Vtp0aXgCksPsyafnniQnSqRlQ0WC4iHTS-Jwv91Jo6ONdgEPiA&pf=p&sclient=psy-ab&safe=off&biw=1280&bih=933&source=hp&pbx=1&oq=david+chand&aq=0&aqi=g4&aql=f&gs_sm=&gs_upl=&bav=on.2,or.r_gc.r_pw.,cf.osb&fp=250116ba2d339486
Then you throw up a link to SCREWLOOSECHANGE and the argument's over, David Chandler has been debunked!
Right?
WRONG!
Because if you look closely at SCREWLOOSECHANGE or even the GOOGLE search, the ONLY thing you see "debunking" David Chandler is SCREWLOOSECHANGE. Now David Chandler is a physicist who gives his name, degree, and experience, and uses SCIENCE and the SCIENTIFIC METHOD to prove his findings.
SCREWLOOSECHANGE: How can you possibly think you "debunked" David Chandler by doing a GOOGLE search, finding SCREWLOOSECHANGE, and posting a link to it?
Let's REALLY look into SCREWLOOSECHANGE:
WHO DOES THE WEBSITE SCREWLOOSECHANGE?
It says "JAMES B" , and "PAT" do SCREWLOOSECHANGE.
Who are "JAMES B" and "PAT":
JAMES B: Gender:
MaleIndustry:
StudentLocation:
Bellevue
:
Washington
About Me
Chief is a combination software geek from Washington
State and retired Chief Warrant Officer from the Army National Guard
(thus the clever name). A recipient of a BA in Russian and East
European studies and an MBA from the University of Washington, his
interests include foreign affairs, economics, politics, technology and
languages. Polite inquiries and job offers will be answered at
chiefb-at-gmail.com
So "JAMES B" is a "SOFTWARE GEEK"!!!!!!
"PAT":
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So "JAMES B" is a "SOFTWARE GEEK" and "PAT" is "PROFILE NOT AVAILABLE".
America's Largest Street Gang (FULL)(the COPS are the largest street gang)
ReplyDeletehttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-qEr_mZf06Y&feature=share
AS SEEN BY THE FOLLOWING MEDIA CO-CONSPIRATORS:
ReplyDeleteAs Seen in Vanity Fair's August 2006 Issue!
As Seen in US News & World Report's September 11 Fifth Anniversary Issue!
As Seen in Time Magazine's September 11, 2006 Issue!
As Seen in Phoenix New Times' August 9, 2007 Issue!